What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

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What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Xplosive » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:45 pm

Hello, I've come across a few problems that people have been having with language imagesets and
such, and I've been wondering what the difference is between the /en and /en_us language?

The words and text used in the files seem the exact same, are there any words that change in the us
language compared to the en language? I'm just a little confused here because I don't know the difference
or if there even is one...? :?

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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by ameeck » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:48 pm

en_us uses American English, which has slightly different grammar and spelling than British English. The usual colour/color for example.

The en/ (British English) package is the default one shipped with phpBB.
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Techie-Micheal » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:48 pm

I still think en in phpBB should be en_gb. :P
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Acyd Burn » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:35 pm

the main language used is able to use the shortcut variant, for example de_du uses de (and also not de_DE)... because it is the default one.

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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Pony99CA » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:03 pm

ameeck wrote:The en/ (British English) package is the default one shipped with phpBB.
I always wondered about that. Wasn't U.S. English the default phpBB 2.x language?

Regardless, why is British English the default? Are there more phpBB admins in the U.K. than in the U.S.? Or does the person who creates the default language file just happen to be British?

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P.S. Techie-Michael, it would probably be eng_uk, not eng_gb. ;)
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Tom » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:07 pm

Pony99CA wrote:Regardless, why is British English the default? Are there more phpBB admins in the U.K. than in the U.S.? Or does the person who creates the default language file just happen to be British?
phpBB is technically "based" in the United Kingdom. For lack of a better term, it's phpBB's home country. Also, more English-speaking people seem to use British English around the world as opposed to US English. That's just based on my observations, though.
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Pony99CA » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:09 pm

Acyd Burn wrote:the main language used is able to use the shortcut variant, for example de_du uses de (and also not de_DE)... because it is the default one.
Maybe you should revisit that decision for a couple of reasons:
  • It has caused confusion here.
  • Your explanation sort of contradicts the fact that the Default language setting in the ACP lists "British English", not just "English". ;)
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Techie-Micheal » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:23 pm

Pony99CA wrote:P.S. Techie-Michael, it would probably be eng_uk, not eng_gb. ;)
How so? I've only ever seen the locales expressed as en_US and en_GB. :)
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Roberdin » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:55 pm

Bizarrely, GB is the ISO-3166 country code for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. In other contexts, GB stands for the island of Great Britain, to the exclusion of Northern Ireland, which lies of course on the island of Ireland. Great Britain thus includes the kingdoms of England and Scotland and the principality of Wales.

The top-level-domain, ".uk" (in, for example, http://www.bbc.co.uk), probably should have been ".gb", (in so far that it would comply with ISO-3166), but according to Wikipedia, "[t]he use of .uk rather than .gb for the top-level domain is due to its pre-existing use in the (now obsolete) JANET Name Registration Scheme in which the order of address components were reversed. .uk was made available in DNS to simplify the translation to and from these addresses."
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Techie-Micheal » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:10 pm

Pony99CA wrote:
Acyd Burn wrote:the main language used is able to use the shortcut variant, for example de_du uses de (and also not de_DE)... because it is the default one.
Maybe you should revisit that decision for a couple of reasons:
  • It has caused confusion here.
  • Your explanation sort of contradicts the fact that the Default language setting in the ACP lists "British English", not just "English". ;)
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+1. It also contradicts other language packs. de_du, for example, is listed as de_du, but as Meik explained, uses de as its shortcut. If en_GB is to be the default language pack for phpBB, that's fine, but why is it not listed as en_GB and uses en? That's my point. :)
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by onehundredandtwo » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:15 pm

Pony99CA wrote:I always wondered about that. Wasn't U.S. English the default phpBB 2.x language?
There was a discussion on this a while ago but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was because theFinn stepped down and dhn became the operations manager though. ;)
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Phil » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:30 pm

onehundredandtwo wrote:
Pony99CA wrote:I always wondered about that. Wasn't U.S. English the default phpBB 2.x language?
There was a discussion on this a while ago but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was because theFinn stepped down and dhn became the operations manager though. ;)
Erm, dhn has never been the Operations Manager -- that position is relatively recent, and has only been held by wGEric. Morever, theFinn is Canadian, not American.

That being said, phpBB2 used British English as well as far as I'm aware.
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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Xplosive » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:51 pm

Oh well, I've gotten my answer! :lol: :)

It must be pretty hard though going through all the words etc.. and having to edit in/out the odd letter
in the language pack... but oh well... if you've got the time ... :)

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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by ameeck » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:46 am

The US English pack is not maintained by the phpBB team but by a language pack maintainer.
do you need to update MOD to an extension?

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Re: What's the difference between /en and /en_us?

Post by Acyd Burn » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:30 am

Pony99CA wrote:
  • It has caused confusion here.
  • Your explanation sort of contradicts the fact that the Default language setting in the ACP lists "British English", not just "English". ;)
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No, not at all. I only explained why the directory (and therefore also what is in iso.txt) is en. ;) The name is completely unrelated and should express the language used.

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