Really? Is it THAT much easier to change styles in vB, IPB, etc.?
I don't recall saying anything about vB, IPB etc or how easy/not easy it is to customize them, I was speaking about phpBB and Prosilver and how creating Prosilver to "stand out" *your phrase* was at the cost of your users ability to customize their boards using that style or styles based on it.
DavidIQ wrote:I really don't see how prosilver is soooooooo much harder to change than subsilver2 and don't tell me it's because it's table-less because that's not a problem with the style and more a problem with lack of knowledge.
That just goes to prove you don't spend much time in the support/styles support forum dealing with the user frustration over trying to make even the smallest changes in Prosilver. Would you like links to several topics that illustrate perfectly what I mean? (how many pages is the "How to Modify Prosilver's header" topic now, up to 100 yet?
) I can do that at lunch if you like but I think you will find that even your support team/styles support team members will acknowledge the truth of what I have pointed out.
What I said was Prosilver was a nightmare for the average board admin to edit, for multiple reasons including somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 style sheets with redundant classes and yes the fact that those same average users have more experience editing HTML table based layout designs and very little with divs, floats and CSS in general. Prosilver was not designed with the average user in mind when it came to them being able to customize it and that is a fact. You can laud it all you want as some great achievement in design but it is a huge failure when it comes to usability. The CSS alone needs a machete taken to it and it needs to be simplified 1000% to compare with the ease of customization that Subsilver offered.
t_backoff wrote:I have never had a problem with customizing prosilver
Somehow I doubt that
t_backoff wrote:I've also seen a lot of topics regarding mass e-mail, permissions, groups, etc.
You seem to have missed the point, which is that of the styles based support questions
Prosilver heavily outweighs Subsilver in terms of support demand.
t_backoff wrote:One doesn't exist for subsilver2 either.
One is hardly needed for Subsilver given it's simplicity compared to Prosilver's complexity.