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Post by Martin Truckenbrodt » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:58 pm

Hello Senthil74,
is the style you are using compatible with phpBB 3.0.7-PL1?

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Post by onehundredandtwo » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:54 am

Senthil74 wrote:The style I'm using is "N.Design V2". I upgraded to version 3.0.7. reCAPTCHA module isn't showing on the registration page but I enabled it in the admin?
To fix it, you will need to download phpBB 3.0.0 as a separate board, and then use the automatic updater, applying any prosilver changes to your style (on your actual board). You will need to do this all the way up to phpBB 3.0.7-PL1. You will need to purge your cache after making all of the changes.

Before making any changes you should back up your filesystem.
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Post by John T. Folden » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:38 am

I allow guest posting in a couple of sub-frums and I was wondering if there is a mod or a way to block guest posting if a link is in the post?
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Post by Mick » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:07 pm

John T. Folden wrote:I allow guest posting in a couple of sub-frums and I was wondering if there is a mod or a way to block guest posting if a link is in the post?
You need to ask this in the mods area, or have a browse in the customise section, this topic is about preventing spam.
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Post by dixieboy » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:04 am

I just want to say adding the ability to use different CAPTCHA systems was a really good idea. I do not see how any spam bot can break our custom question and answer verifications because all of ours will be different. :) Thanks for doing this!

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Post by Martin Truckenbrodt » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:33 pm

Hello dixieboy,
human spammers can do.

Please think about user friendlyness.
IMO CAPTCHAs and Q&As are not looking serious and professional.

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Post by Ger » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:57 pm

Martin Truckenbrodt wrote:Please think about user friendlyness.
Is it user friendly to have to wait for administrator activation instead? I think it's much more user friendly to fill in a simple question like "what's the name of this board", click on a link in an instantly-delivered email an go posting right away.
Martin Truckenbrodt wrote:IMO CAPTCHAs and Q&As are not looking serious and professional.
Sure... That's why about ~75% of the serious and professional sites use them. ;)
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Post by Martin Truckenbrodt » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:57 pm

Hello Ger,
Admin Activation or Double Activation has nothing to do with blocking :!: . :roll: But I think that they are much more looking professional and serious. But that's just my opinion. And it has not to be your opinion. It's okay.

phpBB community is telling that CAPTCHAs & Q&As are the only one right way. And they (devs) are not improving and fixing the existing dnsbl_check feature. I'm sure that this is the only one reason for the popularity of CAPTCHAs & Q&As.

Have discussions like these been fight like a holy war? I don't think so. And I lost my motivation for these discussions. Sorry!

(Insteat) I've done some FAQs http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/a ... k_mod/faq/ .

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Post by onehundredandtwo » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:33 am

I personally don't like DNSBLs because there is a mild possibility that they could block a legitimate user. And that is not what I would define as "professional".

I don't really see how Q&A CAPTCHAs are not serious or professional. I have seen them at large boards (for example, I saw one recently at a tech support forum with ~7 million posts), and they are easy to fill in. The only negative is that people who speak another language may not be able to use them (which doesn't matter if you run an English-speaking community).

As for CAPTCHAs, well they are used on many services like GMail, Hotmail, YMail, Facebook, Myspace etc etc. so I don't see how they aren't professional. There are also services like reCAPTCHA that provide an audio alternative for blind people.
Surely if DNSBLs were effective against spammers without blocking legitimate users then larger sites would use them?

Anyway, my opinion.
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Post by Brf » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:13 am

At work we were using such Blacklists to block spam Email.
These lists are proving to be less and less reliable, with blacklist sites going down frequently. We ending up having to stop using most of them, because they were blocking legitimate customers.

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Post by Ger » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:40 am

Martin Truckenbrodt wrote:Admin Activation or Double Activation has nothing to do with blocking :!: . :roll:
So.... ?
Martin Truckenbrodt wrote:But I think that they are much more looking professional and serious. But that's just my opinion. And it has not to be your opinion. It's okay.
I respect your opinion, but ye never provide arguments why. You simply make a statement and that's it.
Martin Truckenbrodt wrote:Have discussions like these been fight like a holy war? I don't think so. And I lost my motivation for these discussions. Sorry!
Well, you are the one who starts the discussion over and over again... :roll:

My opinion: both your approach nor de default approach is perfect. One should use whatever he wants. However, saying "the other approach is not professional or user friendly" isn't very professional. ;)
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Post by Martin Truckenbrodt » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:50 pm

Hello Ger,
What means blocking? Just look here: http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/a ... 03#details

My arguments you can found at the FAQs for ABM and ADAP. I'm thinking about using phpBB for association, club and company websites. And I'm a IT network professional. Perhaps these are the reasons why I'm looking to some things in a different way.

Just look here: http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... #p11251165 - Not any word about blocking with DNSBLs. It's a phpBB3 default feature! Only some words about using other MODs.

IMO this topic here is not the right place for technical discussions. But here a Arsia (phpBB3.2 ! ) feature request discussion: http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 05&t=33531 . That's the way how the phpBB community is discussing with me. It's like David against Goliath. And I have been implyed to be a spamming MOD advertiser again. I just wanted to talk about improving a phpBB3 default feature and gave an example. That's all! If you are interested I can give you more examples like these via PM.

I have had some PMs with devs last about 18 months. But by now I haven't good any feedback about a test from them. Just two quick arguments from them:
1. possible performance issues. (I and others haven't noticed them by now! )
2. DNSBLs are third party. (Visual confirmation CAPTCHAs and a lot of other components phpBB is using are third party, too. Or not? )
Please don't forget: dnsbl_check is a phpBB3 default feature!

In this discussion here I just wanted to remind that there are alternatives to prevent spammers. That's all.

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Post by Ger » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:16 pm

Martin Truckenbrodt wrote:What means blocking? Just look here: http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/a ... 03#details

My arguments you can found at the FAQs for ABM and ADAP. I'm thinking about using phpBB for association, club and company websites. And I'm a IT network professional. Perhaps these are the reasons why I'm looking to some things in a different way.
I know what blocking is, but I never mentioned anything about it. You brought it up out of nowhere... :?
I'm a webprogrammer too. And I'm running phpBB for professional sites as well as IPB for another professional site. IPB uses CAPTCHA's as well.

As said, I respect your opinion but you seem to try to enforce your opinion to other people.
Martin Truckenbrodt wrote:That's the way how the phpBB community is discussing with me. It's like David against Goliath.
Quite frankly, it seems more like Don Quixote against wind mills to me. You make things personal for no apparent reason. The devs and the majority of active users simply don't concur with you, that's all. I respect your opinion, you'd respect ours. Simple enough, no?
Martin Truckenbrodt wrote:If you are interested I can give you more examples like these via PM.
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Post by John T. Folden » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:31 pm

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John T. Folden wrote:I allow guest posting in a couple of sub-frums and I was wondering if there is a mod or a way to block guest posting if a link is in the post?
You need to ask this in the mods area, or have a browse in the customise section, this topic is about preventing spam.
Thanks, however, if you block posts from guests or new users by disallowing links then you ARE preventing SPAM. ;)
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Post by Ashley.G. » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:48 am

On my forum I have it to where users are moderated on x amount of posts before they can post on their own. While it's annoying, and I hate having to do it or having my staff do it, I also feel it's necessary, especially with all the spam/hacking attempts that are currently about.
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