Pony99CA wrote:sleevedbiker wrote:it really does nothing with search engines. Search engines like google go based on how long the URL has been up based on years and the quality of the content such as your returning visitors[...]
What does "returning visitors" mean? Google has no way of knowing how many returning visitors you have. (They can track how many people click your link in the Google results, of course, but I don't recall ever hearing that they use that in their results display.)
One of the biggest things that they do use (which you omitted) is backlinks -- how many other sites link back to you (weighted by those sites' PageRank, I believe). That's why blog/forum spammers exist -- not to get people to click on their spam links, but to get more backlinks that increase their sites' placement in the results pages.
The URL may be given some weight (for example, if the words in the URL are found on the page, that could give you a small bump), but I haven't seen anybody claim that's a huge influence.
Steve
oooo yes they do. they track all IPs that come on to google. If you use adsense and/or google analytics you will see it all. Adsense works by tracking and scanning your cookies and cache. Whenever someone visits a site that uses either adsense or google analytics all the users info is relayed back to google. You wont recall them saying anything because they wont tell anyone how their algorithm works. The only way to find out is to test different strategies and find out. They also change their algorithm once a year or so. But then you have other top search engines as well such as Alexa who does it a completly different way, the trick is to work on one search engine at a time with trial and error. I am not going to give away all the stuff that i found that works but ill tell you some that should be obvious to anyone whos been writing code on the www for over 10 years. such as submitting sitemaps, robot.txt, etc. but the top 4 search engines all look for different things.
Also, you are correct that backlinks play a part in the algorithm, but backlinks can also hurt your site at the same time. you need to make sure they are the highest quality backlinks. So the people that use bots to do this can actually hurt their site by doing it.
As for the URL the only thing that should be relevant to the site is obviously the main url _____.whatever)although .coms rank higher. Anything other than that wont doesnt do anything. and neither do all these stupid keyword boxs i see everywhere. those are the joke of the internet.
I used SEO urls on another one of my sites for trial and error purposes for 8 months and their was absolutly no difference with them, which removes SEO URLS out of the equation.
The majority of these "SEO BLOG" sites are one giant scam mixed with a drop of truth. I had a website from 1993 that i sold about 5 years afo thats ranked higher than anything and has absolutly 0 of this SEO crap and it was ranked this high because of how long its been around. The person who purchased it put it in some online website museum page which has a collection of a lot of sites from the early 90s that were kept the same as they were when first created. And of course dropped down the list now due to moving it into his website collection/museum. But, with that in mind my conclusion to the BIGGEST part of being ranked as high as possible has to do with how many years the URL/site has been around. And theres nothing you can pay for to beat that. Other than buying a URL thats been around for a long time.
Everything else just bumps you up on the list some, but wont ever compete with how many years the site has been around.but the best thing to do is to make as many pages as possible, the larger the site the more it goes up as well... again nothing you can pay for or download short of paying some one to work on your site along with you or having a forum with a lot of active members or a social network with a lot of members as well.