May I ask what is this danger?Kevin Clark wrote:I think it's dangerous for users to be able to self delete.
May I ask what is this danger?Kevin Clark wrote:I think it's dangerous for users to be able to self delete.
It's also one click to delete a posting, nevertheless the users have the option to delete their posts.Kevin wrote:It's only one click to deactivate an account anyway
I have already gave a solution for this:Kevin Clark wrote:Because they can screw up the flow of a topic if their posts are removed without you knowing about it in advance. It's better to just deactivate an account and leave the posts where they are with their name on.
peopleopinion wrote:Master_Cylinder wrote:No, it doesn't benefit every board, which is why so few would actually enable it. It has the potential to ruin a board. Suppose an active member with 10,000+ posts, including tutorials, how-to, support and lengthy discussions on various topics including pictures gets angry and decides to "take his ball and go home" so he deleted everything. That's not a benefit.
If a user wants to delete his own posts or topics can do it now too, without any further new feature in the phpbb core.
In fact as you probably know, there already is in the ACP an option that allows the user to delete or not his own posts (one by one). Cause I don't think that is a problem, because in the same manner, the admin will have into the ACP some option to configure the self unsubscribe /delete account feature.
For example (into the ACP):
Allow user to delete his own account: y | n
Allow user to choose to delete his posts when deletes his own account: y | n
Etc...
Every one of us is here to give the "phpbb ideas" forum new ideas to compare, with the aim to find the better solution to implement new features or improve existing ones into phpbb cms core etc that is used by a lot of people in the world. Everyone can change his mind comparing ideas here...
Only until a reply is posted, then they can't because it would mess up the topic flow.D@ve wrote:It's also one click to delete a posting, nevertheless the users have the option to delete their posts.
This issue is very easy to solve with a bit of fantasy. Look at the following feature:Kevin Clark wrote:D@ve wrote:no matter how many screens say 'are you sure'?.
I don't want to appear polemic but how many times do users click on the option "disable bbcode" down the text area used for writing responses?Kevin Clark wrote:That's just adding levels and levels of more code and more complexity that has to be written, checked, supported and maintained, for an option that hardly ever gets requested.
Don't let them do it. Simple.
Maybe.Kevin Clark wrote:They are simple factors affecting the post contents, not things that need to remove a ton of information from the database and affect the continuity of the board. And they already exist, as does the ability to deactivate an account.
And they get used more than you think.
We have a forum about religion. Very emotional topic...Don't let them do it. Simple.
You can remove the whole database by mistake... A lot of things can happen by mistake. But thats a risk I'm willing to take.There's also a danger people can delete themselves by mistake, no matter how many screens say 'are you sure'.
Because I don't believe it should be a built in function, for the reasons I stated. Deactivation, yes, but not deletion.D@ve wrote: I don't understand why you are fighting this idea so passionately.
We see similar things on this site every day so minimising the catastrophic mistakes a user can make would be better.D@ve wrote:You can remove the whole database by mistake... A lot of things can happen by mistake.
Yes I'm well aware of that. I had that situation, that a user with a couple of thousand posts "deleted" them bei just editing every single post and changed it to "deleted". Since he started with his oldest posts, it was to late as we recognized it (he must have spend days)...Can you imagine the mess you would have if a user with 20,000 posts had a hissyfit decided to delete themselves?
It must be the choice of the admin! It's also the choice of the admin to allow editing posts.We see similar things on this site every day so minimising the catastrophic mistakes a user can make would be better.
Yes... I think the problem is, that most Admins here come from a technical background. They are running boards about IT, computers or other technical background.IMHO it is very hard if even impossible to convince someone to embrace one opinion if has a deep different experience.
*fullack* here in Germany it was a big discussion about "unsubscribing" from facebook. People where annoyed since they didn't finde the delete-Button (imo they were right). Privacy and "informational self-determination" is a big issue here.Anyway In my opinion it's not possible to understand how an admin can arrogate to him/herself the right to "force" users to stay registered