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phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

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Hello,

I installed version 3.3.0 on January the 21st and, suddenly, I get about 6.000 warnings in Google search console about the breadcrumb : 'id' field missing (this is a retranslation from the French).

Here is the breadcrumb from a sample page:

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<ul id="nav-breadcrumbs" class="nav-breadcrumbs linklist navlinks" role="menubar">
	<li class="breadcrumbs wrapped" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/BreadcrumbList">
		<span class="crumb"  itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope><a href="./index.php" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" accesskey="h" data-navbar-reference="index" title="Index du forum"><i class="icon fa-home fa-fw"></i><span itemprop="name">Index du forum</span></a><meta itemprop="position" content="1" /></span>
		<span class="crumb"  itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope data-forum-id="64"><a href="./viewforum.php?f=64" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" title="Les insectes"><span itemprop="name">Les insectes</span></a><meta itemprop="position" content="2" /></span>
		<span class="crumb"  itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope data-forum-id="86"><a href="./viewforum.php?f=86" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" title="Hémiptères"><span itemprop="name">Hémiptères</span></a><meta itemprop="position" content="3" /></span>
		<span class="crumb"  itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope data-forum-id="35"><a href="./viewforum.php?f=35" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" title="Hétéroptères"><span itemprop="name">Hétéroptères</span></a><meta itemprop="position" content="4" /></span>
	</li>
</ul>
In the sidebar displaying the "error", I get the message element without name and following code part is highlighted:
<a href="./viewforum.php?f=64" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" title="Les insectes"><span itemprop="name">Les insectes</span></a>

I think that version 3.3.0 changed its way of coding the breadcrumb and that Google doesn't find it correct.

Does this ring a bell for any of you?
Thanks in advance.

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Fixed with https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb/pull/5836 (for 3.2.10 and 3.3.1)
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I just found this ticket in another topic.
Thanks.

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Anytime :)
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Hi,

Could someone let me know how to use the github information to fix the site.
I'm getting the same thing from Google. I installed 3.3 last week.

>The following errors were found on your site:
>Missing field "id"
>We recommend that you fix these issues when possible to enable the best experience and coverage in Google Search.

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It would be best to wait for 3.3.1 to be released.
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php_mike wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:47 pm
Could someone let me know how to use the github information to fix the site.
See viewtopic.php?p=15418881#p15418881
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kinerity wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:00 pm
It would be best to wait for 3.3.1 to be released.
Do you mean it's not that important? Any time Google complains, it's seems important since we don't want not to be indexed.

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3Di wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:37 pm
php_mike wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:47 pm
Could someone let me know how to use the github information to fix the site.
See viewtopic.php?p=15418881#p15418881
I made this change, will be automatically be updated/fixed in the next upgrade or do I have to keep track of this change and re-edit when updating?

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Before the changes, I had 12.000 breadcrumb warnings. After 14 days, I'm now at 6.200, the slope goes downwards.

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The Google breadcrumbs is only a warning, not an error. They are giving people time to make changes, until 6 April to be exact, see:

https://developers.google.com/search/do ... breadcrumb

https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2020/ ... y.html?m=1

No penalty or manual action would apply against your site. As noted in the link above, they only rolled out these checks on 21 January 2020 hence everyone experiencing the same thing at the same time. The timing made it look like 3.3.0 was responsible when in fact users of earlier versions of phpbb who did not upgrade started getting related (but different) markup warnings the same day.
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php_mike wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:55 pm
....

I made this change, will be automatically be updated/fixed in the next upgrade or do I have to keep track of this change and re-edit when updating?
Yes it will be automatically updated since 3.2.10 and 3.3.1.
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Thanks.
Would be nice to have a simple Thanks or thumbs up button instead of needing a full comment :).
Last edited by Mick on Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Removed unnecessary full quoting.

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Fortunately, we don’t have that, a ‘thanks’ post is fine if you feel the need.
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Mick wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:50 am
Fortunately, we don’t have that, a ‘thanks’ post is fine if you feel the need.
Thanks, :thumbsup:, Me Likes, +1, :heart:
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