What is the Future of phpBB?

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Re: What is the Future of phpBB?

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tvm wrote:
Can you please stop making unsupported claims about phpBB. If (as I suspect) you think you have the necessary skills and knowledge to move the project on please contact the relevant team leader to offer your services.

Despite what you say age (young or old) is no barrier.
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tvm wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:56 am Since we're kind of on the subject
We weren't, but allow me to assist. ;)
tvm wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:56 am Please explain to me why there are so few official extensions? I mean, come on, do you really need someone to make an extension who make the forum SEO friendly? This should be built in
phpBB out of the box has no problem being indexed by various SE. If by SEO you mean human-friendly URLs (which are not the same thing), then this extension looks promising - [3.3][BETA] Human-Friendly URLs.
tvm wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:56 am Should be ex-validator imo.
Please keep the personal insults to yourself.

As I mentioned in my previous reply, anyone is welcome to submit pull requests for phpBB and additional information can be located on our Get Involved page. If you don't have the skills to submit pull request, you can submit a ticket to the phpBB tracker.

@Everyone, let's try to keep to the original topic of the future of phpBB rather than the steering off-topic.
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Re: What is the Future of phpBB?

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halil16 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:39 am When I wanted to set up a forum 2 years ago, I didn't know what I was doing. Between 2 free options, I decided on phpBB. Because it had responsive styles and was a playground for me with the support and customizations provided. I spent many sleepless nights customizing it and dealing with even the smallest things. But in the end it made me happy. Then I formed a bond with him. I have to think 30 times to leave phpBB when I have all the means. Moreover, with phpBB 4 and the new style, it seems that things will keep up with the times. I hope so. :)
As some have said many times, Chameleon has pretty much stalled. It is very possible to release phpBB4 with an updated prosilver (which will be a step forward), but it getting a "new style" is still a long ways away.

I dare to say you have MODifications installed on your phpBB 3.3.x board since all MODs are just code changes to the phpBB core files, and you've effectively created your own with the help of others in this community. This is all fine and dandy, but can throw a wrench in your desire to upgrade to phpBB4, or at the very least, put you in a situation where you can upgrade to phpBB4, but you lose your custom coded functionality.
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What you're saying sounds like a nightmare. :)

I guess I'll just wait and see what happens instead of jumping headlong. I'll set up a test board and see what I can salvage. What phpBB4 brings is more important than the new style. Because the new style will also stick to phpBB4. Maybe by then I will improve my coding knowledge and write my own style. :)
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halil16 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:38 pm What you're saying sounds like a nightmare. :)
Just don't be militant with updates. :D

3.3.x will be supported for a good while, so it is not needed to jump to the highest version instantly. People have stuck to older. Plus, there seems to be a hold up on phpBB4 as a whole for some reason. It's still in the dev stage.
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Re: What is the Future of phpBB?

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Its kind of funny that I have to proove that I am wrong rather than you proove otherwise. I know 2 people from the old Dev Team who has quit because they dont get to use legacy php code, reason being it's slow and outdated, but still supported in php8. I will not out anyone, so you can try saying that my so called "opinions" are without basis. Also legacy code is not slow, this is not facebook or discord, please spare me 0.001ms.

Its also more of a question why someone who belongs to a grouo called ext-validator claims, he isn't one. Has he quit? Has he 8000 posts for a reason, or does he still feel that I am somewhat right without admitting it?

And while we're at it, why do you think user firendly url's are more important than meta tags? Old phpBB forums get higher ratings because of the age of their domain and content, while new forums get SEO improvement because of detailed meta descriptions, and what not.

And while yes, I did mentioned age at the beginning of my post, that was simply because I know people has quit the dev team because they are playing catchup, and they are being forced to not using legacy code anymore.

Meanwhile I channeled this, no one other than support, and ext-valifators and "regular" users with 6000+ posts have answered, making me believe the real gang is hiding in old user groups.

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tvm wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:01 pmmore of a question why someone who belongs to a grouo called ext-validator claims, he isn't one.
No, he said his username wasn't ext-validator, not that he doesn't help validate extensions. He certainly does, and his group is called Jr. Extension Validators.

Meanwhile I channeled this, no one other than support, and ext-valifators and "regular" users with 6000+ posts have answered, making me believe the real gang is hiding in old user groups.
There are more internal forums on this board than public ones from what I've been told. I don't think there are hidden team groups though, or at least, not many. The sad thing is that image boards aren't what they used to be, from diminishing interest as well as large social media companies, things in general are not looking bright.
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tvm wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:01 pm I know 2 people from the old Dev Team who has quit because they dont get to use legacy php code
What is "legacy PHP code"?
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Were there any Dev team members who actually quit due to code changes? If so, when?
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david63 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:34 am
Lumpy Burgertushie wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:04 pm as far as I know it is still the number one used free bulletin board software on the planet.
Not sure how you arrive at that. Yes phpBB may be the most downloaded, as opposed to used, bb software but how far is that going back?
I post on a handful of forums on different sites and most are NOT running phpBB. This situation was the opposite 15 years ago. And I can name one forum that I post on that switched away from phpBB close to a decade ago.
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Dog Cow wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:31 pmAnd I can name one forum that I post on that switched away from phpBB close to a decade ago.
Not a forum I use, but less than a year ago, there was a forum that needed support on this site that later left phpBB and converted to XenForo. I'm not sure why, but still.

Edit: Nevermind, The forum in question appears to be gone now.
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And there are hundreds of users in the 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 convertor forums who’ve converted from other software to phpBB. IMHO anyone converting to XenForo from phpBB must enjoy pain.
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Mick wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:44 pmIMHO opinion anyone converting to XenForo from phpBB must enjoy pain.
I have no idea why someone would spend $160 on forum software either, which is the current price of XenForo. Just the software package.

That being said, conversions to 3.0 and 3.1 is old news, considering both branches are depreciated. Sure, some might try to convert a Nuke instillation to 3.0 but it's not going to be many.
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But it happens, mainly because of the age of the convertors these days.

Talking of convertors, I’ve no doubt anyone with any knowledge of converting to phpBB from all other software would be very welcome.
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Mick wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:55 pmTalking of convertors, I’ve no doubt anyone with any knowledge of converting to phpBB from all other software would be very welcome.
For coding new converters, true. I don't need to be a converting expert to tell you that isn't going to bring forth a lot of new users though. Should we as the community help people who want to do this? Of course, absolutely. But we must not pretend this will cause a boost in phpBB adoption or interest.

This is especially true when boards would require multiple updates after it is transferred to 3.0 to even get to a supported branch. Something that would probably turn off many average users.
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