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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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You should report your concerns to Apple... :) On the other hand, notifying your users also helps.
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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MattF wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:08 am Why? The whole purpose of this extension is notification/alerts.
As on iOS a lot of notifications are handled that way and it gives immediate visibility without having to pay attention to the notification queue.
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dbrewood wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:17 am
MattF wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:08 am Why? The whole purpose of this extension is notification/alerts.
As on iOS a lot of notifications are handled that way and it gives immediate visibility without having to pay attention to the notification queue.
Those are apps you’re thinking of. The purpose of this extension is solely to push notifications to web browsers. It works on all desktop systems and modern browsers, including Android with its modern browsers. However, browser notifications do not work on iOS/Safari unless you save the web page as a bookmark on your home screen.

This limitation is specific to iOS. When a web page is saved to the iOS home screen, it becomes a bookmarklet, not an application. Although some web pages can be developed into full-fledged Progressive Web Applications (PWAs) that could show badges, this is not the typical behavior for bookmarklets on iOS home screens.

Although we have been investigating it, if it can be done in a plausible way.
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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Okay thanks for clarifying!
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dbrewood wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:11 pm Okay thanks for clarifying!
We are not pursuing badges on iOS app icons. This is primarily because all we are doing here is sending push notifications. Badges in iOS would require some sort of background sync API between the device and the site, well beyond the scope of this extension. At that point you're building a progressive web app, which some other extension could attempt to do one day perhaps.

As for iOS currently, notifications work just fine. You can even go into your iOS settings and set the type of notification preferences you want for a phpBB website that has been added to home screen. Just because there is not a badge on the icon does not mean ignoring this extension, especially when the actual alert is what is working and the whole point of this extension (and it also works on Macs, PCs, android, et. al.)
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I seem to remember the badges being present when I was using an iPhone. Not it now?

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So if there was a push notification, it was there in the application icon.
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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halil16 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:47 pm I seem to remember the badges being present when I was using an iPhone. Not it now?

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So if there was a push notification, it was there in the application icon.
Badges were never present on iOS. It takes a dedicated software solution to enable badges on app icons on iOS.
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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What a great idea?

I can't wait for the official release of this extension for browser push notifications.One question I do have is that I don't see the install prompt on my Android phone unless I click the admin link. Is that by design, or am I missing something in the setup?Is there another way to prompt users to enable push notifications rather than going to the user control panel? I think a lot of visitors have issues finding things in the user control panel.Can it be set to prompt users to enable notifications when they log into the website versus having to go to the user control panel and click enable?
Thanks in advance for a reply.
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wads24 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:14 pm What a great idea?

I can't wait for the official release of this extension for browser push notifications.One question I do have is that I don't see the install prompt on my Android phone unless I click the admin link. Is that by design, or am I missing something in the setup?Is there another way to prompt users to enable push notifications rather than going to the user control panel? I think a lot of visitors have issues finding things in the user control panel.Can it be set to prompt users to enable notifications when they log into the website versus having to go to the user control panel and click enable?
Users can either go to their notification settings to enable it, or enable it from their notifications dropdown menu. It's a preference.
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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Thanks for your reply.

What about installing a website app on Android phones? I noticed that the prompt to install the app for the website will only drop down from the top of the phone if you click on the admin link for phpBB. Is there a setting that can be changed to prompt the installation of the PWA app on the index page instead of the admin sign-in link?
Thanks in advance for a reply.
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wads24 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:26 am Thanks for your reply.

What about installing a website app on Android phones? I noticed that the prompt to install the app for the website will only drop down from the top of the phone if you click on the admin link for phpBB. Is there a setting that can be changed to prompt the installation of the PWA app on the index page instead of the admin sign-in link?
I don't know about Android phones but, with a forum, you can create a post/announcement to explain to your users how they can make use of push notifications, such as letting them know that iOS devices do not support them unless they add your site to their home screens, if they don't already know this.

Lots of sites offer push notification alerts now. Some of them...the annoying one's...hit you with an intrusive blocker-alert asking you to enable them. We will never do that. But as an iOS device user, I have never ever encountered any site that tried to tell to me that I need to add their site to my home screen and enable push alerts. We will never do that either. Like many iOS users, when I've encountered a site where I see they offer push notifications, but I can't enable them on my device because it's not supported, a quick google search always solved that. And like I said above, you can simply post about it in your forum.

Also, this feature is a desktop-first feature. Mobile device support is only possible based on how devices and/or their OS system go about implementing it, and it's not standardized...yet.
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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The extension is working very good. But I get this errors in the console:

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webpush.js?assets_version=1033:84 
 Uncaught 
TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'disabled')
    at handleDisabledState (webpush.js?assets_version=1033:84:23)
    at PhpbbWebpush.init (webpush.js?assets_version=1033:75:3)
    at HTMLDocument.<anonymous> (webpush.js?assets_version=1033:321:16)

webpush.js?assets_version=1033:68 
TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'addEventListener')
    at webpush.js?assets_version=1033:62:22
webpush.js?assets_version=1033:70 
 Uncaught (in promise) 

TypeError: Cannot set properties of null (setting 'disabled')
    at webpush.js?assets_version=1033:70:31
192x192.png:1 
 
 GET https://testforum.com/app.php/images/icons/192x192.png 404 (Not Found)
posting.php:1 
 Error while trying to use the following icon from the Manifest: https://testforum.com/app.php/images/icons/192x192.png (Download error or resource isn't a valid image)
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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Octopus wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:06 am errors in the console
Thanks for the report. This happens for anonymous user, already fixed in the extension repo.
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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Is this ext will work for Opera GX?
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Re: [3.3][RC] Browser Push Notifications

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Working beautifully apart from one thing - my forum is installed in a subfolder of my domain (www.mysite.com/myforum) and third party extensions that generate notifications, like Thanks for Posts and others, deliver a path to the post that is www.mysite.com/viewtopic.php... instead of www.mysite.com/myforum/viewtopic....

In the forum's notification list in the navbar the links are all fine, just in the Push Notifications they are not.

I've redirected my way around it in the .htaccess, but any idea what may cause this?

Thanks!

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