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Brf wrote: The problem was that potential users thought that mods were out-of-date when they actually were not. There were hundreds of: "Is this mod compatible with 2.0.21?" and "Can I get a so-and-so Mod compatible with 2.0.21?... the current one says 2.0.18" posts, so they decided it was better to remove the version number.


I figured that was the reason, but I don't agree with it. A mod validated on 2.0.11 may be out of date, even if it works perfectly well. Validation is a sort of certification not only that the mod works but also that it conforms to the latest security standards, and a user is (in my view)entitled to know how recently a version has been validated. It seems to me that it's up to the mod authors themselves to deal with the problem of people carping about whether an old mod still works on a new version of phpbb. And if the mod authors want to make it easy on themselves, they will edit their very first post in the topic (the one where the mod author introduces the mod) to say that the mod does or does not work on the latest version of phpbb (and to explain what changes people may need to make it work).

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Brf wrote: The problem was that potential users thought that mods were out-of-date when they actually were not. There were hundreds of: "Is this mod compatible with 2.0.21?" and "Can I get a so-and-so Mod compatible with 2.0.21?... the current one says 2.0.18" posts, so they decided it was better to remove the version number.

oh that's nice... now we'll have old outdated mods trying to be installed and getting flooded with "why doesn't this work" questions...

methinks it would be better to "require" the original posts be updated with the new version numbers when they are updated to new versions... i've done this by submitting a new update to the mod database but i suspect that isn't really the best way... especially since my mod (YDISHES) is only two lines to be changed 8O 8)
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asinshesq wrote:
Brf wrote:The problem was that potential users thought that mods were out-of-date when they actually were not. There were hundreds of: "Is this mod compatible with 2.0.21?" and "Can I get a so-and-so Mod compatible with 2.0.21?... the current one says 2.0.18" posts, so they decided it was better to remove the version number.


I figured that was the reason, but I don't agree with it. A mod validated on 2.0.11 may be out of date, even if it works perfectly well. Validation is a sort of certification not only that the mod works but also that it conforms to the latest security standards, and a user is (in my view)entitled to know how recently a version has been validated. It seems to me that it's up to the mod authors themselves to deal with the problem of people carping about whether an old mod still works on a new version of phpbb. And if the mod authors want to make it easy on themselves, they will edit their very first post in the topic (the one where the mod author introduces the mod) to say that the mod does or does not work on the latest version of phpbb (and to explain what changes people may need to make it work).

i hate to quote the whole post but due to pagination, i will...

in one word, thankya! my thoughts exactly... if the mod authors can't take the time to update their announcement messages, can anyone really be assured that they are truely updating their mods and staying up with security fixes as well as not duplicating code and functions already done by phpBB (this last part directed as code bloat due to code duplication)...
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wkitty42 wrote: if the mod authors can't take the time to update their announcement messages


The Mod authors do not make the messages. They are posted by the Moderators of this forum. Therefore, the mod authors cannot edit the titles.

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wkitty42 wrote:if the mod authors can't take the time to update their announcement messages


The Mod authors do not make the messages. They are posted by the Moderators of this forum. Therefore, the mod authors cannot edit the titles.

The mod authors are generally the third post in each new topic annouincing a validated mod. People installing mods generally read past the first two announcing posts to get to the post by the mod author, and it is in that post that I generally insert updating information for my mods letting people know what the story is. It is my understanding that other mod authors follow the same practice. So it seems to me this is a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist, and the solution is worse than the theoretical problem. Just my opinion, of course, and whatever the powers that be decide is fine with me.

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It was removed because people thought that version was what version of phpBB the MOD was for when in fact it is what version it was tested on. If you notice, this has been moved to inside the post now. I do agree that there needs to be a way to tell when a MOD was updated. We could possibly put the date the MOD was last updated in the prefix. I'll bring it up with the team.

We had lots of authors submitting their MODs to the DB again with no changes just so that they could get the version in the prefix updated. This is a very big hassle so this is the main reason for the change. We got tired of dealing with it and it's confusing to users.
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Post by Analog2112 »

Could someone please can my version 1.0.1 of Emotisounds and allow 1.0.2 to take its place?

I uploaded 1.0.1 yesterday but I missed 2 minor text problems in the install doc, so I fixed it and just submitted it as 1.0.2

Sorry about that..

Thanks!

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Analog2112 wrote: Could someone please can my version 1.0.1 of Emotisounds and allow 1.0.2 to take its place?

I uploaded 1.0.1 yesterday but I missed 2 minor text problems in the install doc, so I fixed it and just submitted it as 1.0.2

Sorry about that..

Thanks!


Thank you for informing us. We do this anyway, so in the future you need not notify us ;)

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I'm really hoping this is the place to ask this. If not, I sincerely apologize. A few days ago I submitted a MOD for validation called "Most Recent Posts". After doing some further thinking on the subject, I've decided to scrap the project entirely as I didn't think it through very well. Could a MOD Team Member just kill the request? I apologize for any inconvenience this causes the MOD Team as that wasn't my intention. I just neglected to really think the whole thing all the way through before submitting.

Again, terribly sorry for any inconvenience. I promise, my next project will by more thought out. Thanks.

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I uploaded a new version of Virtual Casino on Sunday. How long does that take to show on the stats page?

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Brf wrote: I uploaded a new version of Virtual Casino on Sunday. How long does that take to show on the stats page?


It won't show up until we view it, technical limitation. Bear with us.

@AcousticJames, we can do that for you

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wGEric wrote: It was removed because people thought that version was what version of phpBB the MOD was for when in fact it is what version it was tested on. If you notice, this has been moved to inside the post now. I do agree that there needs to be a way to tell when a MOD was updated. We could possibly put the date the MOD was last updated in the prefix. I'll bring it up with the team.

We had lots of authors submitting their MODs to the DB again with no changes just so that they could get the version in the prefix updated. This is a very big hassle so this is the main reason for the change. We got tired of dealing with it and it's confusing to users.



Maybe a basic form for mod authors to keep up to date with their mod?

MOD Version: ???
Installation Level: ???
Installation Time: ???
Tested on phpBB Version: ???
Compatible PhpBB Versions: ???

Revision History (either a link or a list)

Maybe the Mods Database could be reorganized into a sortable database. Where you list all mods, or certain times, you can sort by, date added, date last update, latest compatible phpBB version, etc. Just my two cents

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problems downloading validated mods from this forum?

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I know this is not the right place for this post but I'm not sure where is so here goes:

In the last several days I've gotten reports of trouble downloading validated mods from this forum from two different people (for two different mods). See http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.ph ... 82#2493982 and http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.ph ... 10#2483110 . The links work fine on each computer I've tried downloading to. Any idea what's going on? Anyone else seeing this problem?

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Works fine for me,

Ask them to submit a Website Bug report noting their operating system, browser of choice, and any other variables that may affect it, such as download accelerators etc...

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Could somebody please confirm that ban_reasons_1.0.4a is in the queue?
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