Knock off Nigel campaign.

[Jim_UK]

At the moment there is a campaign running on TV in the UK designed to stop the pirating of Music, DVD's Films and Software. A number of ISP's have agreed that they will first warn and then stop the service to users that are clearly involved in such actions with Virgin Net already having sent out 800 letters to customers that are downloading vast amounts of Data.
The campaign on TV takes the form of embarrassing the person in front of friends and work colleagues.
Two such adverts can be seen here
Here on Youtube and another here at the knock off or not site.

Is advertising such as this going to diswade the serial offenders or even the person responsible for downloading the odd copy? Is it maybe aimed not at them but rather at those that buy from them?


Jim

[god0fgod]

This TV campaign wont do anything. ISPs could help downloading of pirated material, I suppose. They would need to know what the users were downloading though and there has been much controversy over privacy.

[MarkTheDaemon]

The TV adverts are reasonably amusing but won't do anything to stop people from downloading material, as god0fgod has already said.

The ISPs don't want to become the police of the internet either, and even if you do get the major players that enrol to a service where they check for pirated material there will always be ISPs around that don't check so the pirates will just move ISP.

What amuses me more is the fact that the TV adverts seem to have been "knocked off" and uploaded to YouTube.

Mark

[Techie-Micheal]

The problem, I think, is only going to be resolved when people change their attitudes about warez and that it is wrong. Until then, people are going to continue to find ways to get around the system. On the flipside, I would like to see ISPs do more. But more in terms of knocking people off that refuse to install and update anti-virus, update their OS, etc. These people are a real danger to others. As an added bonus, some pirates will be caught as their malware may come from pirated software/movies/etc.

[3Di]

What amuses me more is the fact that the TV adverts seem to have been "knocked off" and uploaded to YouTube.

That could be since you-tube belongs to Google as a matter of fact.

[ChrisRLG]

At my own forums we have started to tell all victims of malware, that unless they remove the p2p software we will not help them get clean.

Why may you ask.

We did a short check of the victims on our forum and 4 out of 5 had p2p programs installed - yes that is right 80% of the infected machines visiting us to get cleaned were p2p downloaders.

So we will not support the ongoing p2p downloading metality - if they retrun for a second time with known p2p infections we will not be assisting them.

Is too many other people getting infected by other means which is outside thier own control to panda to the wims of those who insist on downloading from unknown sources, so geting infected.

[3Di]

I didn't realized the main question was about malware or infections or p2p.

That's why of my above post.
Correct me if I'm wrong pls.

[ChrisRLG]

It started as p2p - with the position of the ISP's as police to stop downloading of pirate material.

[Techie-Micheal]

It started as p2p - with the position of the ISP's as police to stop downloading of pirate material.

I think they go hand-in-hand. A lot of malware comes from P2P. It isn't P2P that is the problem, but rather what people normally do with it, and that's download pirated software/movies/etc. Additionally, in order to use most P2P software, victims have to disable firewalls and other changes that make them much more susceptible to getting infected with malware. So you have a two-fer. First the stuff that comes from P2P, then the stuff that comes as a result of P2P.

[3Di]

It started as p2p - with the position of the ISP's as police to stop downloading of pirate material.

I did read again the 'Topic starter' and I have to say you're maybe wrong here IMHO.

At the moment there is a campaign running on TV in the UK designed to stop the pirating of Music, DVD's Films and Software. Etc.. etc..

[ChaosBringer]

IMO p2p software is not the issue, I use ktorrent to get distros of linux and such. Also, just because they are "Downloading Vast amounts of data" doesnt mean they are downloading pirated software. Some downloads are like 4GBs long. they would have to violate the users privacy rights to know what they are downloading therefore the idea is flawed from the getgo.

[Anon]

here at the knock off or not site.

I personally would find it freaking awesome if someone came up and started singing about downloading films. Although I note that they still haven't realised that tangible items aren't directly comparable to intangible ones. Oh well, I shouldn't be surprised

[A_Jelly_Doughnut]

In a related discussion on my side of the Atlantic, the Federal Government is likely to admonish Comcast for censoring its customers access to internet resources, including p2p programs. Comcast is not the only ISP that is taking such action, but they are the largest and (I believe the first).

source

I personally do not use, and never have used a p2p application. If I want music or movies, I have radio and television to provide them.

[Jim_UK]

I didn't realized the main question was about malware or infections or p2p.

That's why of my above post.
Correct me if I'm wrong pls.

Correct 3Di
The discussion was not about P2P and Malware but more how effective a campaign like this could be.
Would it really put them off? They know exactly what they are doing and some no doubt making a good living from it.
Go to most Sunday markets in the UK and there are folks selling this knock off music and folks eager to buy it.
We are not discussing of course the ethics of buying such.

How effective would such a campaign be.

Jim

[3Di]

Thank you Jim.

Go to most Sunday markets in the UK and there are folks selling this knock off music and folks eager to buy it.
We are not discussing of course the ethics of buying such.

How effective would such a campaign be.

As a matter of fact also here, in Italy, there are folks (expecially Senegals, don't know why) that are used to sell their 'stuffs' at the 'Sunday markets', I don't know yet if this campaign will do its purpose but's better have less than nothing.