Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

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Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by umarizal » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:14 am

Why doesn't phpBB keep up with website trends like the main forum scripts and content management systems (CMS) do? :(

:arrow: Friendly URLs
I don't understand why the phpBB development team is so averse to the idea of friendly URLs, going completely against the absolute majority of forum scripts such as vBulletin, XenFORO, Invision Power Board (even free ones like SMF and MyBB) and even the overwhelming majority of websites and miscellaneous scripts as web site managers. content (CMS) such as Wordpress among others.

:arrow: WYSIWYG Editor
It seems like the phpBB text editor has stopped in time with its bbCodes, not at all practical and difficult to use, especially for novices. It would be very welcome a visual text editor, like TinyMCE, where you see in real time the edits made in the text as bold, italic, underline, highlighted link, images, among others.

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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by david63 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:34 am

Both of those features have been discussed at length, many times, so there seems little point in going over them again here.
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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by John connor » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:47 am

Friendly URLs would be nice, but a WYSIWYG editor can go to hell. I don't like the fact where my text is exactly formatted from the content I copied. And sometimes the format will render all messed up. It's better to keep a WYSIWYG editor as an extension only feature which there is. And I do believe there is or was a friendly URL extension for "SEO" purposes, but when I used it and the extension wasn't maintained or broke I had a bunch of useless URLs that in turn destroyed my SEO. So if one were to use a friendly URL extension it has to be coded right and always maintained.

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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by dontcoz » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:33 pm

I don't like the fact where my text is exactly formatted from the content I copied.
Ditto.

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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by Dan Stylez » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:32 pm

John connor wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:47 am
but a WYSIWYG editor can go to hell. I don't like the fact where my text is exactly formatted from the content I copied.
Yep, try posting quotes from an article on an Xenforo forum, christ in the time it takes to make it to look normal you could have wrote the article yourself, on a phone it takes ages, on a computer it's easier to copy it to Notepad then onto the Xenforo topic, :cry: an unnecessary chore.
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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by eeji » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:09 pm

Have you seen the code WYSIWYG editors churn out? I can't stand the things!
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Post by John connor » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:57 am

Dan Stylez wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:32 pm
John connor wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:47 am
but a WYSIWYG editor can go to hell. I don't like the fact where my text is exactly formatted from the content I copied.
Yep, try posting quotes from an article on an Xenforo forum, christ in the time it takes to make it to look normal you could have wrote the article yourself, on a phone it takes ages, on a computer it's easier to copy it to Notepad then onto the Xenforo topic, :cry: an unnecessary chore.
Xenforo is an abomination. I can't believe people pay for that crap. My board has just as many features if not more compared to Xenforo. Plus, what's up with the stupid trophies and crap? It's like they are trying to mimic BS social media.

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Post by John connor » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:58 am

eeji wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:09 pm
Have you seen the code WYSIWYG editors churn out? I can't stand the things!
Off topic, but your avatar has always intrigued me. The hospital I've been to a number of times is called MCR. Medical Center of the Rockies. :lol:

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Post by david63 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:36 am

John connor wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:58 am
your avatar has always intrigued me
The MCR in that avatar is an abbreviation for Manchester (UK) and the heart in the avatar means "I love Manchester" and is response to the horrific terrorist attack two and half years ago.
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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by eeji » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:49 pm

John connor wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:58 am
...Medical Center of the Rockies. :lol:
:lol: David's correct it is indeed Manchester. Not just for the attacks, but for the best city in the world (imho!)
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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by Linsa » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:10 pm

John connor wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:57 am
Dan Stylez wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:32 pm
John connor wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:47 am
but a WYSIWYG editor can go to hell. I don't like the fact where my text is exactly formatted from the content I copied.
Yep, try posting quotes from an article on an Xenforo forum, christ in the time it takes to make it to look normal you could have wrote the article yourself, on a phone it takes ages, on a computer it's easier to copy it to Notepad then onto the Xenforo topic, :cry: an unnecessary chore.
Xenforo is an abomination. I can't believe people pay for that crap. My board has just as many features if not more compared to Xenforo. Plus, what's up with the stupid trophies and crap? It's like they are trying to mimic BS social media.
Why is Xenforo crap for? how is the user-friendliness between xenfor and vBulletin then?

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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by John connor » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 am

Linsa wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:10 pm
Why is Xenforo crap for? how is the user-friendliness between xenfor and vBulletin then?
They're both paid for crap. :lol:

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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by Mick » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:05 am

eeji wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:49 pm
(imho!)
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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by dontcoz » Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:33 pm

John connor wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 am
Linsa wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:10 pm
Why is Xenforo crap for? how is the user-friendliness between xenfor and vBulletin then?
They're both paid for crap. :lol:
Again, I agree. I never understood what were those features that ppl needed so much that they had to pay to get them.

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Re: Why doesn't phpBB follow some trends like its competitors?

Post by warmweer » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:33 pm

dontcoz wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:33 pm
Again, I agree. I never understood what were those features that ppl needed so much that they had to pay to get them.
The misconception exists that something you have to pay for is better than the free equivalent product. (and in this case there's already a misconception about the equivalence).
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