If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Get help with installation and running phpBB 3.3.x here. Please do not post bug reports, feature requests, or extension related questions here.
User avatar
pearlchan
Registered User
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:31 pm
Name: Pearl Chan

If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by pearlchan »

If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?
thanks in advance for any help on this.
"what, what, what, What's the news from Sidra?
Sad News, Bad News, Comes by cables led
Through the Ocean's bed, through the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea & the Med
Iterranean - He's Dead"
Chris Stevens is Dead; RIP
Benghazi :(
User avatar
AlfredoRamos
Recognised Extension Developer
Posts: 1304
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:06 pm
Location: /dev/null
Name: Alfredo

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by AlfredoRamos »

Yes, database changes are incremental.

All previous database changes would be executed though migration files anyways.
Some of my phpBB extensions:
:chart_with_upwards_trend: SEO Metadata | Image Markdown | :shield: hCaptcha
:trophy: Check out all my validated extensions :trophy:

:penguin: Arch Linux user | Linux Boards :penguin:
User avatar
P_I
Community Team Member
Community Team Member
Posts: 2452
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:35 pm
Location: Western Canada 🇨🇦

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by P_I »

pearlchan wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:28 am If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?
thanks in advance for any help on this.
phpBB 3.2.9 is a maintenance release, containing bug fixes and addresses security issues.

phpBB 3.3.0 is a feature release and although the new features that the user might see or use doesn't seem significant, there are significant changes in the underlying infrastructure. This has impact on extension compatibility for example.

I've chosen to update to 3.2.9 for my boards. At the same time I have been actively testing phpBB 3.3.0 since it was in beta. There are at least two extensions that my boards use that are not currently compatible with 3.3.0, so I'm waiting.
Normal people… believe that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Engineers believe that if it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet. – Scott Adams
User avatar
Nephthys Vasudan
Registered User
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:16 pm
Location: Eorzea
Name: Nephthys Vasudan

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by Nephthys Vasudan »

I recently updated from 3.2.8 to 3.3

1: I had a couple of extensions...this added 2 hours of work as I had to manually remove entries from the DB to get around a severe crash/hang on the ACP thanks to extensions.
Make sure you backup your DB/Files before you do anything.

2: The Patching process is complex - but if you have no mods/extensions - you should be ok.

3: 3.3 changed some major areas on the back-end - but so far its just anything to do with extensions is a major impact..otherwise its the same ol PHPBB.

If you got a clean cut set...your going to be fine.
Otherwise - you may want to plan a good chunk of time to fight like hell to get your forums stabilized.

This feels like going from Windows 8 to 10....while it doesn't look that different..it certainly felt like it.

As inferred - you may want to just soft update..then test a 3.3 build somewhere else.
Nephthys Vasudan - Adventurer Extraordinaire
Server Administrator for Dreadwyrm Academy
User avatar
warmweer
Jr. Extension Validator
Posts: 11745
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:34 am
Location: Van Allen Bel ... gium

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by warmweer »

Nephthys Vasudan wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:59 pm I recently updated from 3.2.8 to 3.3

1: I had a couple of extensions...this added 2 hours of work as I had to manually remove entries from the DB to get around a severe crash/hang on the ACP thanks to extensions.
Make sure you backup your DB/Files before you do anything.
Checking the extensions before updating can already identify some extensions which are clearly incompatible and these can be removed completely by disabling the extension (ACP), deleting extension data (ACP), deleting extension files (FTP or your host navigator): in that order.

As for the remaining extensions: the safest way is to test the update on a copy to identify problems beforehand.

Sometimes (I've tried it this morning), enabling an extension which caused a crash can be solved by manually disabling the offending extension in the database, then deleting extension data (ACP) and then removing the extension files. This can avoid having to revert to restoring the database but : DISCLAIMER: I can't guarantee the absence of long term effects.

Having working backups is a no-brainer in any case.
and testing the update on a copy probably also.
Spelling is freeware, which means you can use it for free.
On the other hand, it is not open source, which means you cannot change it or publish it in a modified form.


Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana.
Tread
Registered User
Posts: 103
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:52 pm

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by Tread »

User avatar
Lumpy Burgertushie
Registered User
Posts: 69228
Joined: Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 am

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie »

that extension uploader is not part of phpbb 3.3 as far as I know and there does not seem to be any info about where you can get the extension, etc.

robert
Premium phpBB 3.3 Styles by PlanetStyles.net

I am pleased to announce that I have completed the first item on my bucket list. I have the bucket.
User avatar
pearlchan
Registered User
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:31 pm
Name: Pearl Chan

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by pearlchan »

warmweer wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:27 pm
and testing the update on a copy probably also.
If I have my copy, do I upload to another domain for the testing?
thanks in advance for any help on this.
"what, what, what, What's the news from Sidra?
Sad News, Bad News, Comes by cables led
Through the Ocean's bed, through the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea & the Med
Iterranean - He's Dead"
Chris Stevens is Dead; RIP
Benghazi :(
User avatar
warmweer
Jr. Extension Validator
Posts: 11745
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:34 am
Location: Van Allen Bel ... gium

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by warmweer »

pearlchan wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:54 pm If I have my copy, do I upload to another domain for the testing?
thanks in advance for any help on this.
Same domain, different domain or your own PC. It doesn't matter as long the testing is done with the same (major) php version to make sure.
I actually have a copy of my live board on the same server (different location though) and on localhost (personal webserver). All initial testing is done on localhost, once I'm satisfied, another test on the domain copy and if that goes well, the "live" update. (just use a different cookie_name for each installation).
Spelling is freeware, which means you can use it for free.
On the other hand, it is not open source, which means you cannot change it or publish it in a modified form.


Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana.
User avatar
Lumpy Burgertushie
Registered User
Posts: 69228
Joined: Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 am

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie »

remember, if you install your test board on your live server you must create a new database with a different name for it and then import your database backup into that database. otherwise when you are working on it it will be trying to access your current live board.


robert
Premium phpBB 3.3 Styles by PlanetStyles.net

I am pleased to announce that I have completed the first item on my bucket list. I have the bucket.
User avatar
Nephthys Vasudan
Registered User
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:16 pm
Location: Eorzea
Name: Nephthys Vasudan

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by Nephthys Vasudan »

warmweer wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:27 pm Checking the extensions before updating can already identify some extensions which are clearly incompatible and these can be removed completely by disabling the extension (ACP), deleting extension data (ACP), deleting extension files (FTP or your host navigator)(snip)
Checking extension compatibility is all good and fine....but none exist that are supposedly compatible with 3.3 as of last night...def. not the ones I use.

And I'm not talking about hacking/pushing/shoving either in terms of making it work.

Not interested in repeating the hell i went through to get my boards back up.

The ones that crashed the forum hard had to be manually removed from the DB tables.

No thanks.
Nephthys Vasudan - Adventurer Extraordinaire
Server Administrator for Dreadwyrm Academy
User avatar
Nephthys Vasudan
Registered User
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:16 pm
Location: Eorzea
Name: Nephthys Vasudan

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by Nephthys Vasudan »

pearlchan wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:54 pm
warmweer wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:27 pm
and testing the update on a copy probably also.
If I have my copy, do I upload to another domain for the testing?
thanks in advance for any help on this.
As its already inferred - easy to do.

Make a new "directory" away from your main forum board parking spot.

I suggest a subdomain to make it easy...or something obscure to reach.

Make an entirely new DB for it....and off you go...treat it as if your building an entirely new set of boards.
Then if you want..upload a backup DB copy to have something to simulate with.

Just takes a bit of time.
Depends on your host...but for mine? Its turnkey....just fill in some blanks..and wait.
Nephthys Vasudan - Adventurer Extraordinaire
Server Administrator for Dreadwyrm Academy
User avatar
david63
Registered User
Posts: 20646
Joined: Thu Dec 19, 2002 8:08 am

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by david63 »

Nephthys Vasudan wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:21 pm but none exist that are supposedly compatible with 3.3 as of last night
The majority of extensions (3.1 and 3.2) that I have looked at (well over 100) are compatible with 3.3 so I am not sure where you have got that information from.
David
Remember: You only know what you know and - you don't know what you don't know!

I now no longer support any of my extensions but they will start to become available here
User avatar
Nephthys Vasudan
Registered User
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:16 pm
Location: Eorzea
Name: Nephthys Vasudan

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by Nephthys Vasudan »

david63 wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:08 pm
Nephthys Vasudan wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:21 pm but none exist that are supposedly compatible with 3.3 as of last night
The majority of extensions (3.1 and 3.2) that I have looked at (well over 100) are compatible with 3.3 so I am not sure where you have got that information from.
None are showing up for 3.3 in the search lists at PHPBB short of word of mouth.
Nephthys Vasudan - Adventurer Extraordinaire
Server Administrator for Dreadwyrm Academy
User avatar
david63
Registered User
Posts: 20646
Joined: Thu Dec 19, 2002 8:08 am

Re: If I'm 3.2.8 can I skip .9 and go straight to 3.3?

Post by david63 »

Nephthys Vasudan wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:29 am None are showing up for 3.3 in the search lists at PHPBB
If you are saying that there are non in the CDB then you would be correct. phpBB 3.3 has only been out for two days and it will take the several weeks for extensions to be validated into the CDB.

If you look in the Extensions in Development forum you will find many that are already 3.3 compatible and as I said most extensions are compatible anyway.
David
Remember: You only know what you know and - you don't know what you don't know!

I now no longer support any of my extensions but they will start to become available here

Return to “[3.3.x] Support Forum”