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You don't want dm's special title extension for this. Every user will have to enter their user id# in the ucp field.
It wouldn't be hard to create the extension you need.

I was playing around with his special title extension last night and roughly converted it over to a user id extension.
No user has to fill out anything. It will pull the user id# and place it next to the username.

I have no users on my test site but you can see a couple here: https://www.sniper-e.net/viewforum.php?f=2
Do you need the user id# to show or would it be just as good to have the user id# popup on hover? The title.
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Why not just create an extension that displays all the changed nicknames of the users?
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In order to do that the database would have to keep a record of all the alias names for a user. I'm not sure it does that?
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warmweer wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:01 pm
Aevik wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:05 pm I cannot find this dmzx extension in the database (link?)
Not all extensions have been submitted for validation, nor have they all passed validation.
My guess (probably right) is that there are more extensions available than there are in the extension database.
I get the impression of a very relaxed approach to extension management in the database.
It may be in the long-term interest of phpBB Ltd as an organisation to integrate the most useful (potentially essential) extensions
into the software itself, based on a common concensus of what is regarded by most users as 'useful' or 'essential'.

Maintaining a database of extensions -- old and new, with many older ones wreaking havoc with later software versions,
and with no updates on the horizon, or worse.. abandoned extensions with no active support what-so-ever.
We have first hand experience with the hazards of this arrangement.

The definition of Vanilla phpBB could be dramatically broadened and expanded, with far less reliance on (often buggy) extensions.
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It's entirely up to authors if they want to submit to the database. If they don't they can set up their own site to distribute them.
phpBB can't force the only extensions available to be distributed through this site.
Aevik wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:38 pm The definition of Vanilla phpBB could be dramatically broadened and expanded, with far less reliance on (often buggy) extensions.
You can't add everything. At some point you have to decide that's enough core coding and the rest can be extensions. It's hard to judge what should be built in. Look at the 3-4 things you've asked for in the last few days. You would argue they're essential for your site. No one else seems to think that or there would be extensions made already and lot of requests for them. It's not an easy task.
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Several posts split off to HERE
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I have a question of the OP. What will users do with the membership IDs once they are included in the profile, as opposed to their ready availability by several other means? I mean, what is their utility to users, regardless of their source?
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HiFiKabin wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:32 am Several posts split off to HERE
Good
The discussion was getting pushed very far off topic.
stevemaury wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:54 pm I have a question of the OP. What will users do with the membership IDs once they are included in the profile, as opposed to their ready availability by several other means? I mean, what is their utility to users, regardless of their source?
Happy to answer your question..

The User ID Numbers are used for Admin username tracking and management, since unlimited username changes are allowed.
A username may change an untold number of times, but User ID Numbers never change.
We will keep a cross-referenced database of User ID numbers, and all the usernames they have ever been connected to.
Ideally -- this utility should be limited to the ACP.

There is no ID Number utility for users, most members are not even interested in ID numbers.
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Aevik wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:56 pm Ideally -- this utility should be limited to the ACP.
That data is already in the logs.
Also, users can easily keep track of other members' username changes.
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Yes it is in the logs. Moderators can see them by going to User Notes on a user's profile page or the MCP.
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warmweer wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:12 pm
Aevik wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:56 pm Ideally -- this utility should be limited to the ACP.
That data is already in the logs.
Also, users can easily keep track of other members' username changes.
Where exactly are the logs located?

Users can do whatever they wish -- the User ID Numbers are for Administration alone.
Brf wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:17 pm Yes it is in the logs. Moderators can see them by going to User Notes on a user's profile page or the MCP.
As useful as that is..
When the number of members reaches 4 figures or more, then it becomes a bit time consuming
to check the moderator control panel in thousands of profile pages.

An extension which sends notifications in the ACP whenever a member has changed username is what we actually need,
and also displays the user ID number of that member,
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Nothing is going to happen until you request an extension like I suggested in the very first reply.
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Aevik wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:20 pm
Where exactly are the logs located?
ACP tab Maintenance
Aevik wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:20 pm An extension which sends notifications in the ACP whenever a member has changed username is what we actually need,
and also displays the user ID number of that member,
I'm not 100% sure but I think I've seen a notification of a username change on a board somewhere. (a quick search returned zero however)

I guess an experienced extension writer could develop and extension that provides admin notification of a username change.
There's certainly an event since there's an entry in the User Logs.

Added: you could easily query the phpbb_log table: log_operation = LOG_USER_UPDATE_NAME
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OK, here's the deal. When a user changes their username, it is logged in the searchable User logs, available in the Maintenance tab in the ACP. To find a the user ID of a user who has changed their username, search for the new name in the User logs and it will give you the old name in the Action column. Hover on the Username column to get the userid of the user in the browser link box.

So if user "Smith", userid 100, changes their name to "Jones", a search for Smith in the User logs will tell you that Jones changed his name to Smith, and hovering over Smith will give you Jones' userid, and Smith's, since they are the same.

So, whether you are asking "What is Smith's new username" or "what is Jones' userid", this will provide that info.
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Aevik wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:56 pmA username may change an untold number of times, but User ID Numbers never change.
According to Aevik... "Smith", userid 100, changed their name to "Jones"... then "Jones", userid 100, changed their name to "Peterson"... then "Peterson", userid 100, changed their name to "Johnson"... then "Johnson", userid 100, changed their name to "Rodrigus"... then"Rodrigus", userid 100, changed their name to "Olson"... then "Olson", userid 100, changed their name to "Rathburn".
Aevik wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:20 pmWhen the number of members reaches 4 figures, then it becomes a bit time consuming to check the moderator control panel in thousands of profile pages.
Does the OP want to search for the new "Rathburn" name showing now and list all of Rathburn's alias names used in the past?
Or does he want to find Rathburn's user_id number and list all of the alias names tied to that user_id number?
Or does he want to just find Rathburn's user_id number?

The third search would be easy to search for as stevemaury just explained. But the OP's brain could go into meltdown trying to search the thousands of profile pages the first or second search. When a user changes their name a report is sent to admin stating Olson changed his name to Rathburn with his user_id number. Then a second search in the db would add to that report listing all the usernames with user_id 100 to show all the alias names Rathburn used.

An extension that, every time a user changes their name would log the user's name, the username they changed from and their user_id would work.
And in the logs they would be listed in order of user_id number. This way it would group all of the user's alias names together for the admin.
It depends on what the OP is wanting. Then it gets complicated.
KevC wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:33 pmNothing is going to happen until you request an extension like I suggested in the very first reply.
Try to give details on exactly what you want in an extension. It makes all the difference.
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