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I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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Hi :)

I created a new forum but even setting on "Yes" for "Can post stickie", "Can post announcements", "Can post global announcements".

I looked, in "Forum permissions", "User forum permissions", "Group forum permissions", its Yes in each, but the area of Post topic as, doesn't appear for mi (I'm admin).

It makes me crazy, where it is hidden ? :cry:

Thanks :)
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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Hi,
I wonder if you could be in a other group where "Never" is checked for that permission? Which groups are you in as an administrator?
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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Your prosilver version = 3.3.13 but your style Black version = 3.3.2
Set the board style to prosilver and then clear board and browser cache to see whether the issue is still present)

BTW on your board http auto redirects to https but your cookie domain isn't set properly and you don't have it set it as cookie_secure.
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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Use the permission mask with your username to see where it's blocked. There is probably another group you're in that cannot do that.
Also it's group and forum specific.
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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Hi friends,

Thanks for answers :)

About the theme, I don't think it is the problem, as well as these options are availables in the Announcement and Help Request (and also some other hidden forums).
(I tried to update to 3.3 but it destroyed my navigation bar and background image, I have to search how to put them in 3.3, but not enough time for the moment :( ).
I can not have them even with Silverpro.

I'm pretty sure it's a permissions problem but I don't find where is the problem, permissions are russian dolls complicated :(

About cookie, thanks, I enabled cookie_secure (even if I don't see any changes lol).
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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If its new forum, and if you haven't deleted demo category and forum (i.e. 'Your first category' & 'Your first forum') that automatically get created when you install the forum, try coping permission of category to category and forum to one of your forum, and then check it.
ACP > Permissions > Forum Permissions.
( Be careful though if its fully functional forum, and you have set different set of permissions to different categories/forums.)
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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admin panel
permissions
at the bottom of the menu are the mask options.
If you choose forum based permissions and then on the next screen select a forum that you cannot do stickies in and then enter your username in the bottom left box on the next screen you'll get your permissions for that forum.

On the left of the line for 'Can post stickies' (which probably has a red box on it) you can click the O-> icon and it will show you the groups you're in and where the block permission is coming from.

Post a screenshot of that pop up window.
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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Hi friends 8-)

Thanks for interest for my problem, here is a screenshot of permissions for the forum and Can post stickies, that gives me problem:
Can post stickies.jpg
I will try to create a new forum (category ?) to check if I get the same problem.
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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As Kevin said, you need to use the Permission MASKs. You screenshot does not show the masks.
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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I don't understand nothing to these permissions :( I go in ACP > PERMISSIONS > PERMISSIONS MASKS > View forum-based permissions. I Select a forum > Submit > Select the user (me) and View permissions.
In the result table, I go on the Post tab, I click on the O-> icon of Can post stickies and I get the table I posted as screenshot. Is it not the mask?
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Couin wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:06 pm I don't understand nothing to these permissions :( I go in ACP > PERMISSIONS > PERMISSIONS MASKS > View forum-based permissions. I Select a forum > Submit > Select the user (me) and View permissions.
In the result table, I go on the Post tab, I click on the O-> icon of Can post stickies and I get the table I posted as screenshot. Is it not the mask?
The "result table" shows the end result (What's in a name) for each permission.
The icons on the left will open a graphical overview of the final permission result for the selected permission.
It shows the influence YES, NO, NEVER have (it's even explained)


You need to grasp that a user can be member of more than 1 group having different permission settings.

Read Permissions and make 3 new forums (preferably invisible to Registered Users >>> setting can see forum = NO). Make 3 new users and 3 new groups, put each in a different (new) group. Set group forum can see forum permissions to YES for 1 new user, and NO for an other new user, NEVER for the third.

Then compare the permission trace result for those 3 new users.

After that, add the users that had a NO to the group that had a YES: see the result. Thirdly add that user to the group that has a NEVER (he'll then be member of the three groups-.
Then look at the permission trace to understand that a NO is overridden by a YES, which in turn is overridden by a NEVER.
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But Couin's image _is_ showing the correct permissions mask.

It might help to show a screenshot of your topic that does not have that area:
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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Hi friends :)

@warmweer: Thanks for the URL, but sorry, you lost me, why 3 forums? "Set group forum can see forum permissions to YES for 1 new user", in Group forum (permissions), I can choose a group, not a user. To choose a user, I have to go in User forum (permissions), but what I should do with the 3 groups ? This exercise complicates the problem even more for me, especially because of my board, I don't see where it would be set as "Never" :(

@Brf: I join here the bottom of posting form (I selected silverpro for the screenshot):
posting form.jpg
Workaround: I created the sticky topic from where I can, and moved it to where I can not...
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Re: I have not "Post topic as" on a newly created forum

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Couin wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:46 pm
@warmweer: Thanks for the URL, but sorry, you lost me, why 3 forums? "Set group forum can see forum permissions to YES for 1 new user", in Group forum (permissions), I can choose a group, not a user. To choose a user, I have to go in User forum (permissions), but what I should do with the 3 groups ? This exercise complicates the problem even more for me, especially because of my board, I don't see where it would be set as "Never" :(
The point of the exercise was to have 3 different groups, each with different settings for a specific permission ( a No, a Yes and a Never) your first test user should be member of group1 (with the NO), testuser 2 is member of the group with a YES (group 2), testuser3 ... >>> Group3. You 'll then see the difference between the end result of the permissions.
Next add testuser 1 to group 2: look at the permissions (trace°), then add to group 3 and look again. This will help to understand the permission system. You'll actually see the end permission being changed.

3 forums was just in case you to test specific group forum permissions (that a step further than just Group permissions). it's not because a user has a NO somewhere that the end permission is NO everywhere, nor does a YES imply that the end permission is YES everywhere.

It's an exercise (max 10 minutes) which will help to avoid unwanted permission settings, and also to understand why a specific permission isn't as you expected it, AND will make it clear which setting has to edited.

In most cases you don't have to fool around with user permissions as the number of users is usually too high to manage efficiently, so leave the user permissions as they were originally and use group permissions (and group-forum permissions) to define the common permission settings. If there are a couple of users that need extra permissions, then you can use user permissions (or user-forum permissions), or make a group specific for those users, and then use group-forum permissions.

Play around with the permission for a couple of users (or for a group specifically for those users).
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