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Human spammer vs. technical copywriter dispute

by KeyCAPTCHA » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:15 am

I shift the battle on "Who is Human spammer vs. who is technical copywriter" from another thread to prevent proliferation of off-topic there.

Also, the topic is quite synonymous to questions:
  • "Are there bots without human operators or human spammers without bots?"
  • "Should the spam (bot or human) feeds be retroactively analyzed using blacklisting-analyis filters or spam bots should be blocked (with, for example, captcha"?

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Pony99CA wrote:
Callum95 wrote:I (Of course, I'm not taking human spammers into account there. Q&A will probably block very few human spammers, while blacklists will block more.)

What do you mean under "human spammers?
You think bots acting on their own without humans?
If you speak about humans not using bots then their productivity is negligible and cost is not economically viable for anybody to pay anything.
It is possible to speak only about crazy people spamming from the love to this art. But their part is even less than negligible compared with bot-assisted spamming.
Stop bots and you'll see that your "human spammers" concept has gone to nowhere and to absolute zero

BTW, interacting with bots, retroactively analyzing their feeds, is the main reason of lengthy downtimes of all big network service providers, like WordPress relying on blacklisting Akismet, or conceptually similar systems



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KeyCAPTCHA wrote:
/a3 wrote:
KeyCAPTCHA wrote:I know for a fact that there are humans that do this. I won't post any examples, but there are a lot of users that specifically do this

Then, most participants in IT forums (like msdn-forums, forums.asp.net) are spammers.
Most of them, including MVP, reputed users, moderators, users with thousands posts,
have signatures with 1-5 links in them

Including the participants of this thread

But are any of the people in this thread posting only for SEO benefit? I don't think so. None of the links in my signatures have ever linked to a website owned by myself.

Here's an example, a thread on Digitalpoint.com: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1368966

How many times is the same point repeated? Notice the usernames, the signatures...

This one's my favourite signature:
๑๑๑๑๑๑๑๑๑۩۞ PROVIDING SERVICES ۞۩๑๑๑๑๑๑๑๑๑
★★ QUALITY POSTER★★BLOG COMMENTS★★DATA ENTRY IN CRAIGSLIST (CL)★★JUST PM ME FOR MORE INFO★★



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KeyCAPTCHA wrote:
DavidIQ wrote:
Dogs and things wrote:The increase in the number of human spam registrations will leave projects like keycaptcha in their undies. ;)

I do not worry about this because human participation promotes any projects as internet but not ruin it.
It is also not of my concern the people and projects that are based on contrary approaches - that involvement of ("unarmed" by bots) humans is destroying or really endangering their projects

If to believe in the vein as you do, then there will be no need in any projects on internet since internet will cease to make any sense itself first
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Re: Human spammer vs. technical copywriter dispute

by KeyCAPTCHA » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:42 am

/a3,
what do you call "SEO benefits"?
For example, KeyCAPTCHA Team doesn't SEO its own website.

All my answers mentioning KeyCAPTCHA (even without any links or signatures) to questions asking how to stop bots were deleted and I was called spammer on http://www.vbulletin.com/forum
Here is the funny post citing my deleted in-topic answer and giving names.
Why wasn't that answer the advertising if it cited in full the deleted "advertising" post?

If I answer in-topic advising KeyCAPTCHA under username KeyCAPTCHA,
then I am the spammer.
From under another username, then it is already contribution.
Here is undeleted answer mentioning KeyCAPTCHA with URL in vBulletin.com "Best Anti Spamm? Need this asap. Adult Spammers!" thread on

BTW, all my deleted there posts contained links either to the same http://www.vbulletin.com/forum posts or to KeyCAPTCHA plugin contribution on vBulletin.org

How my posts SEO-ed keycaptcha.com website?
Isn't SEO oxymoron as term, approach and concept?
What does SEO have to do with search engines optimization and SEO-ing of webiste with marketing a product or a(n online) service?
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Re: Human spammer vs. technical copywriter dispute

by KeyCAPTCHA » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:18 pm

KeyCAPTCHA wrote:Here is the funny post citing my deleted in-topic answer and giving names.
Why wasn't that answer the advertising if it cited in full the deleted "advertising" post?

Seems like insults also were deleted after this post, in a few weeks.

I'd like to cite here very popular (having thousands comments, Tweets, quotes) Gail Gardner's blog article "Akismet Deletes Comments Bloggers NEVER SEE!:
Here are some unusual definitions of spam that I have come across:

    1.Any comment that has a business in the URL field.
    2.Any comment left by anyone the blogger doesn’t recognize.
    3.Comments that include a link not related to their blog’s niche.
    4.Any comment that has keywords in the name field EVEN IN BLOGS THAT HAVE KEYWORDLUV installed.
    5.Any comment they don’t like.
    6.Any comment from a commentator they don’t like.
    7.Any trackback = spam to some bloggers because so many of them are from scraped or MFA (made for AdSense sites) – even high quality incoming links from major sites and blogs!
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